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Minutes PC 09-20-22 Josh: I'm not aware of any long-term plans for a sound barrier wall along I-465. When is this going to happen?Dubbie: We are on their long-range plan,20 years or more. When the trees were removed by IPL along 1-465,we lost that natural sound and pollution barrier.It's really loud now. 111 Josh: Can you bring the percentage of trees that the property owner had a tree logging company remove in the last year or so?Jon Dobosiewicz: We can bring those numbers to Committee. Josh: The Plan Commission is an advisory board to the City Council(CC).We advise what is the best product for a piece of land. I would like to see the stormwater plan and SWPPP.I want to see comparison of what it would look like for a S-2 verses a PUD. Bring an exhibit to show what is private streets and public ROW.I would like to see visitor parking remain as visitor parking and not for someone who wants to store a bunch of stuff in their garage. Can you provide Visitor Only Parking type signage?Brad: Explore this further but not to the detriment of creating empty islands of asphalt if no one is using the visitor parking. Christine: Isn't it specified in the PUD that residents cannot convert their garage space to storage space?Jon Dobosiewicz: This is specified in the PUD as a zoning requirement. Carrie: How far is the crushed stone walking path by the pond going into the existing trees?Jon Dobosiewicz: It will not go into the forest but run close to the pond. Carrie: Can you bring in physical examples of color pallets to the Committee?Jon Dobosiewicz:Yes. Alan: Is this site designated as a forest?If so,what is the definition and are there any restrictions for forests per the Ordinance?Similar to what federal laws mandates for certain waterways. Has a species inventory been done?Jon Dobosiewicz: We will work with Planning Staff on your questions. Brad: For the on-street parking on the main street,along the pond,if those parking spaces are still necessary,what would be the variance needed for the removal of the required parking spaces and to preserve more existing trees if possible.Jon Dobosiewicz: The last exhibit in the info packet has our parking exhibit and refers to our on-street parking spaces. We are meeting the minimum requirement of parking spaces. IA Motion made by Hill and seconded by Zoccola to continue PZ-2022-00119 DP/ADLS to the Oct. 6 Residential Committee,with the full Plan Commission having the final voting authority. Approved 8-0,absent Rider. Commissioner Zoccola has recused herself from PZ-2022-00147 OA due to a conflict of interest. 2. Docket No.PZ-2022-00147 OA: Legacy PUD Amendment. The applicant seeks approval to amend the Legacy PUD text in order to increase the number of permitted units in the PUD and increase the number of apartments permitted. The site is located southwest of 146th Street and Community Drive. It is zoned Legacy PUD Z-501-07 as amended. Filed by Nelson&Frankenberger,LLC on behalf of Advenir Oakley Development,LLC. Petitioner: Jon Dobosiewicz,Nelson&Frankenberger: • Presented Site Location Map, We are proposing to amend portions of the Legacy PUD to construct a unique residential community to be known as"LEO Living Cottages and Multi-Family" • The subject site consists of approx. 32 acres, and is located south of and adjacent to 146th Street and west of and adjacent to Community Drive • Legacy PUD was approved by CC in Jan. 2007 and amended one time in Dec.2018 • LEO cottages community will be a single-family-rental and traditional multi-family development with a focus on the new urbanism principle of walkability,incorporating pedestrian-friendly features that foster connectivity • This will consist of 230 single-family attached and detached rental homes,and 120 traditional garden-style apartments available in 1,2,and 3-bedroom residences located in 3 buildings adjacent to Community Drive • Presented Site Zoning Map and Use Blocks, Permitted uses in the office use block include office and parking structure uses.We will provide example site plan how this would be developed for just the office use block at Committee. • Original Legacy PUD permitted a max of 1,344 dwelling units, including a specific max number of permitted attached dwellings and apartment units. The 2018 amendment reduced the max allowed to 1,250 dwelling units. • Our proposed number of dwellings shall not exceed 350 dwellings(230 sf attached and detached, 120 apartments) 3 Plan Commission Meeting Minutes 9-20-22 • 60-ft, 5-story buildings are currently allowed in this section of the PUD,and our proposal is completely different • A traffic study analysis has been done to show the difference between office use(currently allowed)and residential uses(proposed uses) • Architecture will be similar to what is already in Legacy. Images are shown in our info packet(Tab 5)and we will discuss this more in detail at the Committee • The subject site will not be part of the Association entitled to the use of the existing amenity facility,which serves the other neighborhoods within the Legacy PUD • A new clubhouse will be included in an amenity space for this development,along with pocket parks.All amenities and open space landscaping will be maintained by the developer.All amenities will be constructed at the start of construction. Public Comments: Phillip Cozmes,Cannel View: In 2018,I got T-boned by a car at Belleview. There's no stop sign for the cars traveling into the Legacy neighborhood. Steve Elm,Cherry Creek Estates: Traffic is lined up along 146th Street between 3:30-5pm. We need to look across the street.Noblesville is developing more residential on their side of 146th Street. Cherry Creek Drive is traffic. Lisa Branney,Meadows at the Legacy: I have twin 7 years old. The schools don't provide any buses if you live in the 1- mile radius. 146th Street gets congested between 3pm-5pm. Children will be walking home in this area.This increase of residential will create safety and traffic problems. I see car accidents occur at 146th and River Road. Tonya Miller, The Ridge at the Legacy: We bought our home because of the existing amount of greenspace in this area, and this amendment will have a huge impact to the adjacent neighborhoods. We need more businesses in this area along 146th Street instead of more residential. Gary Richmond,Moffit Farms: I'm not against redevelopment.I want to support small businesses and this plan will take that away.The Legacy was built around urban development and walkability. If they take away the commercial space, where are we going to walk to?This is not the right type of development for this area. John Reddick,The Ridge at the Legacy: I moved here because I like to have the ability to walk to a business or restaurant.This proposal will eliminate that. There's not a lot of places that we can walk to. Chokshi Raghupathy,The Ridge at the Legacy: There's a reason why commercial/businesses were proposed here with the original PUD. They wanted to make a walkable district where we can go to restaurants and businesses. Traffic is already bad and adding more homes will add to the problem.Please stick to the original plan. William Tankovich, The Ridge at the Legacy: If it was going to be Senior Living, it wouldn't affect the schools.An increase of 350 units will directly impact the schools,traffic,and the teachers. We are the ones paying for the landscape areas to be maintained. When you actually look up who's actually going to build these units,the company sells out within 4.5 years,get their investment,and move on. There are multiple online reviews I read from actual residents say after they leave,the units go to trash since they aren't properly managed. We stand for what was already approved. Michael Stephens,Cherry Creek Estates: This went from a giant field to very dense housing.I noticed walking through this area there's a lot of trash piling up, construction debris, and road trash along the streets. I notice the area east of the subject site that the apartments facades were degrading and not being well maintained.Are we going to see a net increase of people with this proposal compared to what is already allowed? Theresa Stephens,Cherry Creek Estates: I'm asking you to preserve our quality of life.My air pollution monitor was the highest at my house the other day.I worry about the air quality. What will we do with our schools and teachers if we overpopulate this area?I have concerns for traffic and safety of the residents. The current road system is not built for this. Monica Papaioannou,Meadows at the Legacy: I was told the developer wants to build affordable housing. This sounds to me like subsidized housing,which we do not want to see in Cannel next to our nice homes that we have invested in. This will bring down everyone's property values. 4 Plan Commission Meeting Minutes 9-20-22 Brad Grabow,President of PC: This Commission does not discriminate with respect to economic status,or housing prices. The City of Cannel desires housing options at all price points. The Commission will base our decisions on this. IRebuttal to Public Comments:Jon Dobosiewicz: • This proposed development should result in the reduction of traffic compared to what building types are already allowed in the PUD • Currently traffic travels down Community Drive from 146th to gain access to River Road.James Dean Drive will eventually extend to 146th Street,which gives drivers another access option • We received information from Cannel Schools administration,and they stated they are under capacity for their elementary schools in this area. • 315 dwelling units,more intense office development,and higher storied buildings are permitted today • This proposal would authorize 35 additional dwellings than what is already permitted today in the PUD • We would like a copy of the petition that was circulated to be signed by neighbors. We would like to see what kind of information is being shared to the neighborhoods. • I'm unaware of the 10-year-old traffic study that was brought up.We haven't provided a traffic study to Staff yet. We would like a copy to the traffic study that was referenced in the public comments. Department Report:Alexia Lopez • They are proposing to amend the Legacy PUD Ordinance to remove the office use block and to allow more residential units including more apartments and for rent attached dwellings • Apartments are permitted in the village core and urban residential use blocks,but not within the office use block. Lofts are permitted in the office use block but are intended as an ancillary use on the top floor of a building • We have received 22 remonstrance letters and we have heard most of those concerns during the public hearing • Staff believes these PUD amendments should not have a negative impact on the development overall • We reached out to Cannel Clay Schools,and they have no concerns accommodating an increase in enrollment • An amenity center will be provided to serve the future residents of this neighborhood • This development will allow for more density near the core of the Legacy and the retail areas, and it will allow for additional variety in housing options • This project provides appropriate transitions by putting the larger apartment buildings along the main road in Legacy and smaller 1 and 2 story buildings toward the west • Staff will continue to work with the Petitioner on the outstanding comments • Staff recommends this is continued to the Oct. 6 Residential Committee for further review Committee Comments: Sue: Will this come back for DP/ADLS review? Alexia: Yes, it will come back for DP/ADLS. Sue: Where is the housing product at that you showed during your presentation? Jon Dobosiewicz: Alabama Sue: A traffic study is needed and should include what is being proposed across the street(146th St.). Is the proposed amenity center similar to something else in Cannel?I understand there's not much of a demand for office use now than when this was proposed in 2007 but we need to look how this will impact the adjacent neighborhoods. Carrie: How many more units does this bring?Jon Dobosiewicz: 350 total dwellings,with 35 additional dwelling units than what is already permitted. Carrie: Who maintains the exterior?Jon Dobosiewicz: All exterior dwellings,parking areas,and landscaping will be maintained by the owner of this development. Carrie: I believe this type of product is needed,but I don't think this is the right spot for it.The Legacy is already dense as it stands.More commercial and retail is needed on the eastside of Carmel. We need to look at the traffic. Brad: Is there a Master HOA that encompasses the entire Legacy?Or is it by each area?Jon Dobosiewicz: Each have Itheir own separate HOA,but all participate in a Master Association and that maintains the amenity facility and signs. Brad: Is Community Drive a public street that is maintained by the City?Jon Dobosiewicz:Yes. All are public streets There are internal drives that are private and will be maintained by Legacy. 5 Plan Commission Meeting Minutes 9-20-22 Josh: It's interesting to hear public input that they want what was already permitted,which is more density and commercial.What is originally proposed here, should be placed there. I want to make sure we are getting the highest and best use of this land. Carrie: James Dean street will definitely be used as a cut through.It's different than Community Drive, since James Dean is compact with houses,and that is dangerous for people living on this street. Brad: Can the Petitioner research the James Dean street?What can the City do add stop signs and other traffic calming devices?Jon Dobosiewicz: Regardless,James Dean will be developed as a dedicated city street.Driveways will not have access to James Dean and public sidewalks will be required. Alan: Is the CC the governing body that will vote on this? Alexia Lopez: Correct. Jeff: Please explore options with Engineering Dept. on speed-controlled devices on how to make these streets safer? Traffic study is needed. Explain why this amendment is needed?Why is this amendment better for the City?For the Developer?Why should this PC be interested in this proposal and change it?Jon Dobosiewicz: We will have a trip generation analysis,and we will seek the City Engineering Dept. on their thoughts. Jon Dobosiewicz: We will have a second neighborhood meeting on Oct. 19 or 20th.and we will notice all residents within the Legacy. A Motion made by Hill and seconded by Buckler to continue PZ-2022-00147 OA to the Oct.6 Residential Committee,with the full Plan Commission having the final voting authority. Approved 7-0,absent Rider,Zoccola. 3. Docket No.PZ-2022-00149 DP/ADLS: Clay Terrace—Hilton Tempo Hotel. The applicant seeks site plan and design approval for a new hotel on 1 acre. It will be 5 stories tall(70')with 150 rooms and a rooftop restaurant. The site is located at 14311 Clay Terrace Blvd. in Clay Terrace. The site is zoned PUD(Z-662-20).Filed by Mark Leach of Faegre Drinker on behalf of Clay Terrace Partners LLC. Petitioner: Steven Hardin: • With me tonight are Lisa Callahan,Chris White,David Rausch,and Mark Leach • Presented site location, concept plan, renderings, and elevations • We will continue to work with Staff on any outstanding comments. • We will update our plans to show the long-term bike parking,updates to our exterior lighting,and screening of the roof-top materials. Public Comments: Jessica Sherman,E. 146th Street: I don't have a major opposition to this project but I have concerns if this will take over the existing dog park in Clay Terrace. There's a huge need for free dog parks in this area. Can we get a temporary location for this?This is a huge asset to the community. James Cheadow,Walter's Plaza: The traffic problem will only worsen with the additional of this hotel. There will also be apartment complexes going up. The drive lanes on Clay Terrace Blvd will be reducing the north and south drive lanes and adding bike lanes.My neighborhood had safety issues when Clay Terrace was developed. Rebuttal to Public Comments: Steven Hardin: • This hotel will be constructed at the existing location of the dog park. The dog park will be relocated within Clay Terrace • Traffic analysis and street improvements were discussed when the Clay Terrace PUD Ordinance Amendment was reviewed 2 years ago. We can discuss this again at the Committee level. Department Report: Rachel Keesling • This is the first project that is coming before us since they amended the Clay Terrace PUD • We have asked the Petitioner to provide us with the type of exterior lighting that will be used • Rooftop lighting is prohibited in the PUD,so we need to review the lighting details of the rooftop restaurant • We need to know how the rooftop mechanical units will be screened 6 Plan Commission Meeting Minutes 9-20-22