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CARMEL PLAN COMMISSION
SPECIAL STUDIES COMMITTEE
THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 2, 2006
Minutes
The Special Studies Committee of the Carmel Plan Commission met at 6:00 PM on November 2, 2006
in the Caucus Rooms of City Hall.
Members present: Jay Dorman; (late arrival) Mark Rattermann; Steve Stromquist; Madeleine Torres;
Susan Westermeier, thereby establishing a quorum.
DOCS Staffpresent: Director Mike Hollibaugh; Matt Griffin; Christine Barton Holmes and David
Littlejohn. Also present: John Molitor, Legal Counsel.
The Special Studies Committee considered the following items:
1. Docket No. 06100012 ADLS Amend: 550 Congressional Signage
The applicant seeks approval for a sign package.
The site is located at 550 Congressional Blvd. and is zoned B -2.
Filed by Lisa Bohn for LB &A Sign Management.
Lisa Bohn, LB &A Sign Management appeared before the Committee on behalf of CB Ellis,
property manager at 550 Congressional Boulevard. Approval is requested for two building signs
and two directional signs.
The signs will comply with the Carmel Sign Ordinance; the colors will be beige, white and dark
bronze. The letters on the building will be internally illuminated; the directional signs would be
externally illuminated. The directional signs would be located at the entrance to the property on
both sides and less than 20 square feet. The building signs would be facing elevations.
Department Comments, David Littlejohn: The new sign package complies with the Ordinance.
The building is allowed three signs because of three frontages. However, two building wall signs
are requested. The Department recommends approval.
The existing sign faces the parking lot.
Madeleine Torres made formal motion to approve Docket No. 06100012 ADLS Amend, 550
Congressional Signage, seconded by Mark Rattermann, Approved 3 in favor, none opposed,
one abstaining (Westermeier.)
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2. Docket No. 06100013 ADLS Amend: AT &T Signage
The applicant seeks approval for a new ground sign.
The site is located at 4160 E 96th St and is zoned B -3.
Filed by Ron Moenter for Moenter Sign.
Ron Moenter, Moenter Signs, Shelbyville, appeared before the Committee representing AT &T.
Approval is being requested for a new ground sign located at 4160 East 96 Street.
The original Ameritech sign was 6X6; the proposed sign is 4X6. The new sign looks a lot like the
previous sign only smaller, and internally illuminated with LED's instead of fluorescent. The
same landscaping will apply, except that a plant in the front died and that will be replaced,
weather permitting. Otherwise, everything is the same except for the AT &T name change.
Department Comments, David Littlejohn: The Department recommends approval.
Mark Rattermann moved for approval of Docket No. 06100013 ADLS Amend, AT &T Signage,
seconded by Susan Westermeier, Approved 4 -0.
3. Docket No. 06100017 ADLS Amend: Harley Davidson Signage
The applicant seeks approval for a new ground sign.
The site is located at 4146 E 96th St and is zoned B -3.
Filed by Don Miller for A Sign By Design.
Note: Mark Rattermann recused himself due to a conflict of interest.
Don Miller appeared before the Committee representing Russ Dellen, owner of the Harley
Davidson lot at 4146 East 96 Street. The proposed ADLS Amendment will change out the
existing cabinet sign and up -date the signage for Harley Davidson to conform nation -wide.
The colors of the signage are orange, black, and white. The sign is internally illuminated; the
cabinet is aluminum frame.
The Department suggested adding brick to the signage, either below or incorporating. As a
result, the petitioner has added two courses of brick. To include brick all the way around would
be almost impossible to cut brick into and around the signage.
Department Comments, David Littlejohn: Currently, the sign is located within the right -of -way,
and Harley Davidson does have Consent to Encroach. With the replacement of the existing sign
the Department would like to see an encasement of some sort of masonry.
In response to questions from Susan Westermeier, Don Miller explained that to physically put
brick around the sign would be impossible. If the cabinet were square or rectangle, it would be
easier, but to actually cut the brick and form around the cabinet would be a nightmare. The
petitioner was agreeable to adding a limestone cap.
Don Miller agreed to add more brick at the base to come up to four (4) rows, and to include the
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limestone cap at the top of the brick.
Susan Westermeier made formal motion to approve the sign, including the four rows of brick and
the limestone cap, subject to the redesign, modification and ultimate approval by the Department,
seconded by Madeleine Torres, Approved 3 in favor, none opposed, Mark Rattermann recused.
4. Docket No. 06100018 ADLS Amend: Lakes of Carmel Signage
The applicant seeks approval for a new sign package.
The site is located at 382 Arbor Dr is zoned M -3.
Filed by Tracy Mendez for BH Management.
Tracy Mendez, project coordinator for BH Management appeared before the Committee
representing the applicant. Approval is being requested for awnings and interior signs to replace
existing signs. Currently the signs are in the right -of -way and the City is requesting relocation of
the one entry sign to both sides of the entryway.
Department Comments, David Littlejohn: The petitioner is changing out the existing signs; the
new signage complies with the Ordinance. The signage located in the entry median was never
changed when signage was last approved. Landscaping will replace the current sign in the entry
median. Currently the sign is in the right -of -way and the City would support signage on both
sides of the entry rather than the middle as currently located.
The proposed awnings will be black with white piping around the bottom.
Mark Rattermann moved for approval of Docket No. 06100018 ADLS Amend, Lakes of
Carmel Signage, subject to moving the existing sign out of the center median and on to either
side of the entry —the black awning with white piping is also acceptable— seconded by Susan
Westermeier, Approved 3 in favor, one opposed (Torres.)
5. Docket No. 06100019 ADLS Amend: Bella Chic Signage
The applicant seeks approval for a new ground sign.
The site is located at 111 1 st st sw and is zoned I -1.
Filed by Derek Wellman for Bella Chic.
Continued to Dec 05, 2006
6. Docket No. 06100020 ADLS Amend: Goodwill Signage
The applicant seeks approval for two new wall signs.
The site is located at 1122 Keystone Way and is zoned B -8.
Filed by Brad Barnes for Barnes Investment.
Brad Barnes, Barnes Investments, owner of Keystone Way Shops appeared before the Committee
representing Goodwill Industries. The proposal is for the previous Sears Hardware store location
at 1122 Keystone Way. The existing ADLS package is for red signage only and was at a time
when the Ordinance specified one -color signs only.
Goodwill Industries would like to change the signs to navy blue. The petitioner will also be
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appearing before the Board of Zoning Appeals for a second sign —the donation sign.
Brad Barnes also requested approval to paint the existing facade "sunrise," a light tan, and
"brewed tea," a medium tan very similar to the colors on Old Navy. The new colors will give the
building a fresh facade. The petitioner would also like approval to paint the Yorkshire Rose Pub
the same colors, although the painting will not occur until next spring.
Thirdly, the petitioner would also like approval to install a canopy over the Goodwill donation
drop -off center that will require a minor reconfiguration of the parking lot.
Department Comments, David Littlejohn: The petitioner will be appearing before the BZA for
the second sign. Otherwise the signs comply with the Ordinance and the Department is
recommending approval.
Brad Barnes commented on the signage within the center. The Yorkshire Rose Pub signage will
be red; H -R Block signage is white with a green logo; the tanning salon is red with a yellow logo
box. Brad Barnes thought the Ordinance was changed so that signage in one particular shopping
center was not required to be the same color.
There were questions from committee members regarding the drive -thin donation drop off —the
canopy, how far it projects, and the traffic flow delineation pattern.
Brad Barnes reported that the canopy projects 15 feet; the sidewalk measures two feet, plus 11.8
feet of drive -thru lane, and a 4 -foot planting island.
There was considerable discussion from Committee members regarding the drop -off situation.
The drop -off location is a potential trash dump and becomes unsightly over time. This particular
location has high visibility from Keystone Way.
Mark Rattermann suggested doubling the size of the plantings to 3 '/2 feet tall to shield drop -off
items from sight. Mr. Rattermann would also like to see asphalt where traffic would flow and a
concrete patio for a public drop -off area. The drop -off items would likely be out after hours
even overnight. Shrubs should be utilized as a visual barrier around the drop -off area.
The petitioner was in agreement with comments made by Mark Rattermann.
Mark Rattermann made formal motion to approve Docket No. 06100020 ADLS Amend,
Goodwill Signage, subject to the following: 3 -foot shrubs, a concrete patio with a "U" shape
canopy, covered, for public drop -off, and painting the building and the adjacent building (the
Yorkshire Rose Pub) to match as well as approval for the Goodwill sign, plus the donation sign,
seconded by Susan Westermeier, approved 4 in favor, none opposed.
Note: Jay Dorman entered the meeting at this time.
7. Docket No. 06100022 ADLS Amend: Old Town on the Monon Signage
The applicant seeks approval for three new signs.
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The site is located at 111 W Main St is zoned C -2 and is in the Old Town Overlay
Filed by John Sweeney for Barrett Stokely, Inc.
Randy Stokely, managing agent for Barrett Stokely, Inc. appeared before the Committee
representing the applicant. Barrett Stokely owns and manages Old Town on the Monon,
formerly known as Amli Old Town.
The property was developed as apartments on the top two floors and retail suites on the ground
floor, Main Street. The apartments located farther south are all residential.
The petitioner is requesting a sign package for the apartments. Other than the rental office that is
part of the retail component, the apartments have no signage whatsoever and this has created
somewhat of a problem. (Residents of Amli have been bothered by people wanting to know how
the units can be purchased —most people think they are condominiums.)
The petitioner is requesting three, relatively small signs. Two signs would be placed on the brick
portion of both the north building and the south building along First Street SW. The third sign
would be a hanging sign adjacent to the Monon Trail. The size of the sign is 42 "X26" and would
be suspended from a pole.
Department Comments, David Littlejohn: The signs being requested conform to the Ordinance.
The suspended sign would require a "Consent to Encroach" from the County Surveyor's Office
because there is a drainage easement very close to the building. The sign must be five (5) feet
from the right -of -way. The Department recommends approval conditioned on the County
Surveyor's Consent to Encroach.
Jay Dorman made formal motion to approve Docket No. 06100022 ADLS Amend, Old Town
on the Monon Signage, subject to the County Surveyor's approval/Consent to Encroach,
seconded by Susan Westermeier, Approved 4 in favor, none opposed, one no vote (Madeleine
Torres was out of the room at the time the vote was taken.)
8. Docket No. 06080006 ADLS Amend: Opus Landmark Meridian Phase II
CONT. TO DEC. 5TH
The applicant seeks approval for the construction of a 124,215- square foot, four -story
office building in an existing office park.
The site is located at 10333 North Meridian Street and is zoned B2.
Filed by Steve Foster of Opus North.
9. Docket No. 06050001 Z: Legacy /East Carmel PUD Rezone
The applicant seeks to rezone 509.234 acres from S -1 to Planned Unit Development for
the purpose of creating a primarily residential, mixed -use development.
The site is located north of 126 Street, south of 146 Street, and on either side of River
Road. Filed by Steve Pittman and Paul Rioux of Pittman Properties.
Charlie Frankenberger, attorney with Nelson and Frankenberger appeared before the Committee
representing the applicant. Also present: Steve Pittman, Neal Smith, and Nick Churchill of
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Pittman Partners.
The Committee and Petitioner openly reviewed and discussed Exhibit 14 of the Legacy PUD —the
Use Table. Changes were suggested by the Department and agreed upon by the Petitioner.
The remaining Text of the PUD was then reviewed and modifications made and agreed upon.
Docket No. 06050001 Z, Legacy /East Carmel PUD Rezone was Continued to a Special
Meeting, single item Agenda, date to be determined.
10. Docket No. 06060023 DP /ADLS: Bill Estes Pre -Owned Facility
The applicant seeks to construct a new, 9,350- square foot, pre -owned vehicle sales
facility. Variances for signage, landscaping, and bufferyards will be filed.
The site is located at 4102 West 96 Street and 9884 Michigan Road, and is zoned B2.
Filed by Mary Solada of Bingham McHale LLP for Bill Estes Chevrolet.
Mary Solada, attorney, Bingham McHale, 2700 Market Tower, Indianapolis appeared before the
Committee representing the applicant. Also in attendance: Bill Estes, owner, Bill Estes
Chevrolet, Annmarie Varga, Land Planner with Bingham McHale.
The petitioner has appeared before the BZA requesting 1 I variances7 variances have been
granted, two were no decision votes and two were denied —the petitioner will return to the BZA
for a final vote on the two "no decision votes."
At this time, Mary Solada and Bill Estes are only seeking open discussion and guidance in the
Development Plan and ADLS for the proposed, pre -owned sales facility.
Docket No. 06060023 DP /ADLS, Bill Estes Pre -Owned Facility was continued to the
December 05, 2006 Special Studies Committee for further review at 6:00 PM in the Caucus
Rooms of City Hall.
11. Docket No. 06070008 DP /ADLS: Pennwood Professional Office Park.
The applicant seeks to construct two, 2 -story office buildings, on a 4.11 -acre parcel.
The site is located at 11505 North Pennsylvania Street and is zoned B5.
Filed by E. Davis Coots of Coots, Henke, and Wheeler.
Dave Coots, attorney, Coots Henke Wheeler, 255 East Carmel Drive appeared before the
Committee representing the applicant. Also present: Leonard Wolfson and Richard Young,
Wolfson Young, and Mike DeBoy, DeBoy Land Development Services.
Following the public hearing in October, the petitioner submitted revisions for the benefit of the
Committee. Previous comments referred to the "institutional" appearance of the building and
with the revisions, the windows look more conventional —office design.
The textured paving is not a porous surface but rather a decorative concrete that is designed to
identify the entryway from Pennsylvania through this project and to the existing Police and
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Fireman's Insurance Company. The pavement is bounded by a rolled curb that allows two rows
of parking. Cars can pull up over the rolled curb into the parking spaces, not double parking cars.
The screening of the HVAC is with a parapet wall, no additional screening around the units
themselves.
The petitioner will return for signage when actual tenants are known.
The building materials consist of a greenish, tinted glass. The building is a pre -cast concrete
accented by a middle row of color that will become the cornices as well as the medallions within
the design of the building. Photographs were shown of buildings in the area with similar types of
pre- fabricated concrete panels to the materials being proposed.
The additional parking lot screening along the eastern edge to shield the residents to the east on
Washington Boulevard has been incorporated into the landscape plan. The plantings within the
drainage easement have been removed and relocated on the site. The entryway and parking lot
have been re- designed to accommodate comments made at the public hearing by Mr. Volbrecht.
The entryway remains as -is, no change. The initial design that featured an entrance out of the
parking lot along the western border has been closed. The entire area only exits the existing
in/out parking area. The entry in the parking lot area has also been re- designed to retain the
existing trees that were subject at public hearing.
Mike DeBoy addressed the Committee regarding the natural storm water infiltration out of the
south edge of the parking area into the pond. The water will be collected and discharged directly
into the pond; it will be used as a storm water quality basin instead of catching it and piping it.
The petitioner has sought to keep the line of the building consistent with what exists and also
remain sensitive to the landscaping and parking area along Pennsylvania and preserving green
space and plantings that exist at the entryway.
The petitioner requests a favorable recommendation of this project to the full Plan Commission.
Public Comment:
Tristan Glover, Zeller Realty Group, representing the owner of the property immediately to the
south of the proposed development, stated that issues expressed at the public hearing have now
been addressed and they fully support the proposed plan.
Department Comments, Matt Griffin: Given the re- design, the Department supports this proposal
and recommends referring this item to the full Commission with a positive recommendation, with
the understanding that a full revised landscape plan is forthcoming and ultimately approved by
Scott Brewer, Urban Forester.
Commission Member comments:
Jay Dorman questioned the location of the handicap parking spaces —are they as close to the
building entry as possible?
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Matt Griffin responded that the spaces work better at the end because of the direct access to the
sidewalk.
Jay Dorman made formal motion to forward Docket No. 06070008 DP /ADLS, Pennwood
Professional Office Park to the Plan Commission with a favorable recommendation, subject to
landscape plan approval by the Urban Forester, seconded by Susan Westermeier, Approved 5 -0.
12. Docket No. 06080032 DP /ADLS: Medical Drive Shoppes
The applicant seeks to construct a 9,600 square foot, one -story commercial retail building
on the site of a former child care facility.
The site is located at 126 Medical Drive and is zoned B8 /Business.
Filed by Mukesh Patel (owner).
Sanjay Patel, VS Engineering appeared before the Committee representing Mukseh Patel. Also
present: Bruce Berry, architect, and Dick Johns, site engineer.
The site is located at 126 Medical Drive; to the east is the Goddard School and to the west is the
Carmel Care Facility. The Carmel Racquet Club is immediately to the north of the site. The site
formerly housed the LaPetite Daycare Center that burned to the ground in 1998.
The site has several challenges in terms of elevation changes-14 feet from Medical Drive to the
back of the lot. There is a retaining wall that goes from the backside of the building across the
back of the parking lot and down towards Medical Drive.
The trash dumpster will be located at the northeast portion of the site and screened by a wooden
fence.
The height of the barrier wall is, at times, between 8 and 10 feet in the rear; therefore a fence was
recommended. The fence will be chain link with black coating.
ADA ramps will be installed, pursuant to the contract manual, and ADA requirements will be met
at the entrance.
The exaggerated arching of the central parapet was a concern. The returning of the parapets has
been addressed and the parapet now conceals the sloping wall that would be needed to brace the
taller parapet —the arched feature. The petitioner prefers the arched parapet in the scheme.
The building actually sits about four (4) feet above Medical Drive and visibility of roof top units
and things of that nature will be very limited from the street side and less from the parking lot.
Building materials: This is a fairly traditional retail center with EFIS, a masonry pier at each
location, and aluminum storefront. The brick sample was shown; the color of the EFIS is the
darker color. The accent color would be green to match the green canopies. The wall is a
standard keystone unit.
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The petitioner will return for a sign package when tenants are finalized.
Susan Westermeier questioned the look of the multi colored canopies.
Matt Griffin said the Department was OK with the colors —they are pretty muted.
The petitioner has met with Scott Brewer in regard to the landscaping. Because of the restrictive
nature of the site, the landscape plan shows all of the plantings, species, and locations
Note: Petitioner will need a variance from some of the landscaping— petitioner is willing to
donate to the Parks Department for mitigation.
Susan Westermeier made formal motion to forward Docket No. 06080032 DP /ADLS, Medical
Drive Shoppes to the Plan Commission with a positive recommendation, conditioned upon an
approved landscape plan prior to the full Commission meeting, seconded by Madeleine Torres,
approved 5 -0.
13. Docket No. 06080038 DP /ADLS: Midwest ISO.
The applicant seeks development plan and architecture, lighting, landscaping, and signage
approval for a proposed 147,000- square foot, 3 -story plus basement office building
located on 10.042 acres. A connecting pedestrian bridge to an existing office building is
also proposed.
The site is located at the northwest corner of City Center Drive and West Carmel Drive,
and is zoned M3.
Filed by Paul Reis of Bose McKinney Evans LLP for Carmel Drive Partners, LLC.
Paul Reis, attorney, Bose McKinney Evans, 600 East 96 Street appeared before the
Committee representing the Lauth Property Group and Midwest ISO. Also present: Fred
Simmons, architect, Mike DeBoy, engineer, Steve Granner, land planner, and Mike Holsey,
Midwest ISO.
There is a large area shown on the site plan as "available," and the petitioner will not be showing a
development plan or any type of proposed improvements at this time. However, when this site is
proposed for development, the petitioner will return to the Plan Commission for DP /ADLS.
Regarding the timetable of this project —this is a time- critical project. It is extremely important
that the petitioner return to the Plan Commission later this month so that construction can begin.
This project has been in the works for several months and the petitioner is very anxious to start.
Fred Simmons, Simmons Architects then addressed the Committee. Booklets were distributed
that reflect corporate changes suggested by the Department. The building is not a 147,000
square -foot building—it is a 100,000 square -foot, three story building above grade, with a 34,000
square -foot basement. There is also an adjacent mechanical building that will serve the needs for
the basement level. The project really consolidates Midwest ISO's headquarters components that
are leased throughout the Carmel area. The existing building will remain in place, however, there
is a connection proposed between the proposed building and the existing building that is on the
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east side of City Center Drive. The lower portion of the building, the basement or lower level, is
designed to handle a category four (4) storm event or catastrophic tornado. The mechanical
building that serves the elements and systems within the lower level area is also designed for
category four (4) storm event.
The petitioner has provided revisions to the landscape plan as well as revisions to the site plan in
terms of connectivity from adjacent sidewalks into the site. The Midwest ISO is a very secure
environment and persons are not really encouraged to visit the site. However, a connection from
the sidewalk on Adams Street into the property as well a connection from City Center Drive will
be established. Otherwise, accessibility is limited. There is also a proposed pedestrian connector
between the proposed new building and the existing Midwest ISO building that is similar in design
or motif of the Monon Pedestrian Bridge Connection that is currently under consideration by
Carmel. The design features piers with Colonial brick and decorative detail elements along with
basic limestone accents. The petitioner is working with the City to allow the construction of
supports within the median as well as bring the tower elements within the right -of -way. City
Center Drive is currently under the jurisdiction of INDOT because of Federal funding. In talks
with the Engineering Department, the petitioner understands that Carmel will be taking over those
responsibilities. The petitioner is now under negotiations to allow the construction in the right -of-
way.
The proposed building is actually designed as a future, multi- tenant building in the event Midwest
ISO is no longer the sole occupant. It is also designed as a future expansion area that would
encompass 36,000 square feet, 12,000 square feet per floor. The parking has been designed to
accommodate the additional square footage.
Some architectural elements have been added. There are tapered aluminum shafts that house the
lighting that shines both up and down. That same look has been incorporated into the towers and
will be lit on both sides.
The mechanical building will house emergency generators, fuel storage tanks, cooling towers, etc.
and similar to the functions for Clarian North Hospital. The mechanical building will be clad with
the same architectural pre -cast as the building, and the louvers will be dimensioned to match the
geometric scheme of the glazing system for the building. The louvers are needed and they must
be able to withstand 125 mph winds. There is one side of the building where Spandrel glass will
be added to match the existing building.
The petitioner states that he has addressed all of Scott Brewer's comments and the landscape plan
has been re- submitted. The Engineering reviews are being addressed and re- submitted. The
screening mechanism around the roof has been lowered by approximately 3 feet, 6 inches and the
extent of the screen wall matches not only the architectural intent of the building but has also been
substantially reduced.
Department Comments, Matt Griffin: The pedestrian connection from Adams is shown as
stubbing into the parking lot —there needs to be striping or some dedicated course from the
sidewalk to the building rather than just into the traffic way. Additionally, before the full
Commission meeting, the petitioner is to touch base with Engineering and Scott Brewer to make
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certain that there are no outstanding items. Otherwise, the DOCS concerns have been addressed
and the Department is recommending this item be returned to the Commission with a favorable
recommendation.
Committee members:
Jay Dorman: Define "TTT." Also, please explain the tunnel leading to the mechanical building.
Is there disaster testing?
Fred Simmons said that TTT is the transformer —fed from two different sub stations and has
redundant power for everything. Two transformers serve the lower level and the mechanical
building; one is general power, one is for heating. There will be landscaping for screening, but it
is still being worked out with Duke Energy exactly where these will be located.
There is an underground tunnel to the mechanical building; the tunnel also connects all of the
power lines and piping. There is disaster testing. When the lower level is fully built out, this
particular building will house five separate generators, a very large fuel tank, and approximately
six cooling towers in order to provide chilled water for the lower level.
Jay Dorman asked if the petitioner would become more amenable to more pedestrian walkways
throughout the site if the building becomes a multi- tenant building —Fred Simmons' response was
in the affirmative.
Madeleine Torres commented on the pedestrian bridge that seems to draw a lot of attention to the
two buildings— unusual for a company trying to keep a low profile for security /safety reasons.
Mark Rattermann felt that the bridges were not that attention getting —there are bridges like this
all over the country.
In response to questions from Jay Dorman, Fred Simmons stated that the undeveloped parcel will
be maintained by Lauth Property Group and will remain an open field for now.
Jay Dorman made formal motion to forward Docket No. 06080038 DP /ADLS to the Plan
Commission on November 21, 2006 with a recommendation for approval, subject to final
approval from Engineering, final approval from the Urban Forester (landscape plan,) installation
of interior, perimeter sidewalks at such time as the building becomes multi- tenant, and additional
striping for pedestrian way finding for the northern building, seconded by Madeleine Torres,
approved 5 -0.
14. Docket No. 06090038 ADLS Amend: The Terraces Rosewalk on Main
The applicant seeks approval to construct two apartment buildings, providing a total of
14,100 square feet, in an existing complex.
The site is located 35 Rosewalk Circle, and is zoned Old Meridian/Mixed Use, within the
Old Meridian Overlay District.
Filed by Mark Boyce for Rosewalk on Main, LLC.
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Mark Boyce, 3960 Chadwick Drive, Carmel appeared before the Committee representing the
applicant, Rosewalk on Main LLC. The target market for this project is independent -living
seniors wanting one bedroom residences.
The site is slightly over five acres in total, located on Main Street, just east of Old Meridian. The
first buildings were proposed at about the time the City proposed the Old Meridian Overlay
Corridor.
The first three phases, the 3 -story main building, and the two wing buildings were completed in
recent years with a heavy emphasis on one bedroom units. Currently, there is a shift in the market
and there is an increased demand for two bedroom units. The final phase, the two frontage
outlots, is all two bedroom units-12 two bedroom residences, four of which will be two
bedroom -two baths, eight will be two bedroom -one bath designs.
The landscape plan was submitted to the Department. There will be walk -up entries similar to
Pembrooke Place so that there is a sense of entering into the buildings. Also there is access from
the rear from a landscape standpoint. The petitioner is striving for connectivity with additional
benches, a rose garden, and additional landscaping on all four elevations, including buffers for the
mechanical units.
The brick color was displayed to the Committee Buckingham Tudor, Key West, and Oxford
Brick. The roof and shingles are the same weathered wood as on Rose Walk on Main, phase one.
The streetscape feel will complement the overall feel for Rose Walk and will complete the project
effectively. The elevation shows the brick on the sides except for the gables, and hardi -plank
siding on the covered patios.
Department Comments, Matt Griffin: The original approval on Rose Walk was granted in 2000
as a Special Use. The end elevations do not have windows and the Department would like to see
them included. Approval is only required at the Committee level.
Mark Rattermann commented that parking in this particular area is a huge problem right now.
Mark said he had heard from two or three property owners and parking is a main complaint.
There are 104 units, 151 parking spaces. Mark Rattermann asked to see a plot plan. The
townhome project previously approved at Main and Guilford has no guest parking, and the
business owner on the corner is severely, adversely affected. A two bedroom unit will need two
parking spaces.
Mark Boyce responded that the Terraces project has 25 more parking spaces than is required
there is no parking issue at Rose Walk.
Mark Rattermann stated that there is a parking problem in this entire area.
Susan Westermeier agreed that Rose Walk does not have the parking problem.
Mark Rattermann said he did not have benefit of a plot plan for this project. It is difficult to get
the overall picture here.
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Matt Griffin explained that previously, there were two buildings approved for this spot —the
exterior design was slightly altered from what was seen at the initial hearing before the BZA for
the Special Use. What is before the Committee this evening is an amendment or alteration to the
exterior of the two, previously approved buildings.
Sue Westermeier asked the petitioner if he would agree to install windows on the end units per
staff recommendations; Mark Boyce said he would work with Staff to add two windows per
facade per level (a total of 16 windows.)
Sue Westermeier made formal motion to approve Docket No. 06090038 ADLS Amend, The
Terraces at Rosewalk on Main, subject to the petitioner agreeing to install two windows per
facade per level on end units, (16 windows) pursuant to Staff approval, seconded by Jay Dorman,
Approved 4 in favor, one opposed Rattermann.)
15. Docket No. 06090040 ADLS Amend: Williams Realty Parking Expansion
The applicant seeks approval to expand an existing parking lot, by adding 25 spaces on a
parcel measuring 2.036 acres.
The site is located at 9830 Bauer Drive and is zoned B3.
Filed by Darci Pellom of Civil Designs, LLP for Williams Realty.
David Gilman appeared before the Committee representing Williams Realty. Also present: Jim
Peck, civil engineer.
The proposed project is a 25 -space expansion of the existing parking lot at Williams Realty
located at 9830 Bauer Drive. The petitioner is requesting approval to add a second story to the
rear of the building. In order to accommodate the building extension, the parking lot will have to
be extended to meet the parking requirement.
Jim Peck addressed the Committee and explained that the existing building will be increased, the
parking lot expanded, and the drainage ditch behind the building cleaned up. Some of the over-
growth will be cleaned up and the petitioner has been working with the Urban Forester. The
underground detention will be provided; the petitioner has been working with the City Engineer
to address any impact onto the existing detention facility.
Department Comments, Matt Griffin: The Department is awaiting Scott Brewer's comments on
the landscape plan. Also, a final approval has not yet been granted from the Engineering
Department for storm water quality control. The proposal meets the parking requirements. The
wallpack shown as illustrated will cast light out and not down and this can be a problem. The
Department recommends down -cast lighting.
The petitioner is asking that the motion for approval of the architectural design of the building
include approval for the expansion of the parking lot.
Mark Rattermann asked if the neighboring residents were noticed for this proposal.
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Matt Griffin responded that this item is not a public hearing item and notice to adjoining property
owners is not required.
Jay Dorman made formal motion for approval of Docket No. 06090040 ADLS Amend,
Williams Realty (Building) and Parking Expansion, thereby adding 25 spaces to the parking
and increasing the building by approximately 5,000 square feet, subject to landscape plan
approval, lighting wall packs to cast downward, and a positive report from City Engineer
regarding storm water quality control, seconded by Susan Westermeier, approved 5 -0.
Note: DOCS Staff will research the original commitments made on this project for clarity of
process.
There was no further business to come before the Committee and the meeting adjourned at 10:05
PM.
Steve Stromquist, Chairperson
Ramona Hancock, Secretary
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